Campaign of the Month: September 2012
A Manifestation of Chaos
Maelstrom808 Painting Services
I’ve done painting and assembly work for several group members for awhile, and I figure it’s about time to put up an actual price schedule so everyone is on the same playing field, and to simply make quoting easier for me.
So to get to the meat of it, why pay me for your stuff instead of X service or “this other guy I know”? Well, there are a ton of guys out there that are doing it, and most of the true professionals have better skills and setups than I do. I consider myself mid-range at best as far as my skills go. The difference is you have a face to face relationship with me, you know me on a personal level…and quite frankly several of the group members know exactly where I live :) If you send your stuff off, even if you use a highly reputable painter like GMM, you don’t have that interaction. In addition, my rates are pretty damn decent (working it out on a per hour basis, I’d make more money working in a third world country sweatshop). With many of the high end studios, you are looking at a basic 25mm trooper starting at $10 a mini and going up from there.
Here is the basic pricing schedule. These rates are for group members only. Anyone outside the group, if I accept the job at all, would pay at least a 25% premium on top of these. Keep in mind these are guidelines, and classifying a miniature is at my prerogative. Explanation of the various classifications and services are provided below the table.
|Service (per model)|
|Miniature Class||Assembly||Paint||Basic Flocking||Base Detail*||Per Decal||Per Drilled Barrel||Per Yellow/White/Red|
|SD Infantry (25-30mm base)||$0.50||$2.00||$0.25||$0.25||$0.25||$0.25||$0.25|
|HD Infantry (25-30mm base)||$0.50||$3.00||$0.25||$0.25||$0.25||$0.25||$0.25|
|SD Hvy Inf (40-50mm base)||$1.00||$5.00||$0.50||$0.50||$0.25||$0.25||$0.50|
|HD Hvy Inf (40-50mm base)||$1.50||$7.00||$0.50||$0.50||$0.25||$0.25||$0.50|
|SD Lg Model (60mm base/lt vehicles)||$2.00||$10.00||$1.00||$1.00||$0.25||$0.25||$2.00|
|HD Lg Model (60mm base/lt vehicles)||$3.00||$15.00||$1.00||$1.00||$0.25||$0.25||$2.00|
|SD VLg Model (120mm base/hvy vehicles)||$5.00||$20.00||$2.00||$2.00||$0.25||$0.25||$4.00|
|HD VLg Model (120mm base/hvy vehicles)||$7.00||$25.00||$2.00||$2.00||$0.25||$0.25||$4.00|
SD/HD - This stands for Standard Detail or High Detail. SD is used for a basic figure of a given size. HD is a catch-all for figures that have a high level of detail, unusual size for that category, or some other feature that makes them particularly more difficult to paint or assemble.
Infantry (25-30mm base) - This is your average human size figure in the scale D&D and most of the table top games we play. In D&D terms this would generally be a “medium” creature.
Heavy Infantry (40-50mm base) - This would generally be a “large” creature in D&D. Bikes and cavalry will usually fall into the HD version of this category.
Large Model (60mm base/light vehicles) - This would generally be a “huge” creature in D&D terms. Walkers, Tau Pirahna, Space Marine Land Speeders would all be included here.
Very Large Model (120mm base/heavy vehicles) - This would generally be a “gargantuan” creature in D&D terms. It would also cover most flyers,tanks, and transports.
Anything larger than these classifications would be quoted on a case by case basis.
Assembly - This price assumes a standard, well-cast mini. Generally with plastic minis, this is fine. With metal or resin based minis, you often have casting problems leading to warping, large gaps, air bubbles, heavy flash, etc. If the model requires corrective care beyond simple mold line and sprue wart removal, or needs special assembly such as pinning this cost could increase 2-3×. If you give me a pre-assembled model that still needs an unreasonable amount of cleaning up or repair, you may still incur an assembly charge. Note that the classification for assembly may differ from the classification for painting.
Paint - I have one level of painting, which is my version of tabletop quality. Now that term is highly subjective. For me, this generally means that when the mini is sitting approximately three ft away on the table, it looks great without any noticeable flaws and has a three layer base/shade/highlight paint job. You’ve seen several examples of my work in our games, and more can be provided upon request. Make sure you let me know in detail what you want, and I’ll be honest and open about what I think I can achieve.
Basic Flocking - This is just a simple layer of sand or flock applied to cover the base. Sand is no problem, but if there is a specific color of flock that you want, and I don’t have it (right now my basing material selection is very low so assume I don’t) you or I will have to purchase it. If you purchase it, I will use what I need for the project you give me and return the rest to you. If I have to purchase it, the cost will be added to the cost of the project. If I use less than 50% of a container of flock for your project, then you will be charged 50% of the container cost and I will keep the rest. Flock containers generally go a long way. If no flocking is selected, then the base will be painted black for no charge.
Base Detail - This covers more detailed basing options such as adding foliage, rocks, or other knick-knacks, or painting a base beyond just a featureless flat black base. Painting and adding items to the base each add the listed Base Detail cost. So if the Base Detail cost is $1.00, and you want me to paint a special base, and add various items to the base, the total cost for Base Detail would be $2.00. Some models have integrated base details that are part of the model. Depending on how extensive these are, they may incur an automatic base detail charge. Like flocking, if I do not have the materials at hand, you or I will have to purchase/provide them under the same agreement as above…and no, I’m not crawling through the woods looking for moss or twigs to add to your base. This can be a bad idea for a number of reasons.
Per Decal - This is a flat charge to apply a decal or waterslide transfer to your model. If the decal is particularly difficult to place due to size or location, this cost may be doubled. I am currently exploring the ability to do custom decals. If this ends up being something you want, we can discuss a reasonable price.
Per Drilled Barrel - Often gun barrels just modeled flat with no actual opening. If you want an actual hole there for realism, this is a flat fee that will be applied.
Per Yellow/White/Red - These are notoriously difficult colors to paint in acrylics due to poor coverage. They often take many thin layers to achieve a reasonable effect that covers well without going on too thick. This charge will be applied for main or contrast colors, but not for details. An example would be if you wanted a figure with his armor painted white, his cloak and shield painted red, and the raised detail on the shield painted yellow, you would be charged the “Per Y/W/R” cost twice. Once for the white armor as this is the primary color, once for the red as a contrast color (even though it was used in two locations, you are only charged once, regardless of the number of times it’s used), and the yellow would not be charged as it was used in a small detail rather than a large surface. Now if the model is able to be primed in a given color, you will not be charged for that use. White primer is something I keep on hand, but red and yellow primers are not something I generally keep (regular red or yellow spray paint won’t cut it).
Currently I have a substantial backlog, and will be taking no commissions until I plow through it. I expect this to take about a month or so. Once this is done, I know that at least a couple of group members have a massive amount of work for me. Since I 1) don’t want to get backed up this far again, and 2) want to make sure that everyone has equal opportunity to get work done, I’ll limit what I take on to about 1-2 weeks worth of work, distributed evenly among those are looking for minis done. Most likely, once I open up commissions again, I’ll put up a running post in the forums where everyone can see who has what being worked on and where I stand on completion.
Generally, I won’t ask for a deposit from group members with the smaller chunks of work I take on at a time. The only time I might, is if something in the commission requires material goods I don’t have on hand, and then it won’t exceed 25% of the total commission price. Once the commission is complete, then payment is expected at time of delivery. Cash is king, but I may also accept equal value in trade items if we negotiate such before the project starts. If for some reason, the commission is not paid for at time of delivery, I’ll hang on to the minis and give you a month to come up with the funds. After that, the minis will become defacto payment and are mine to do with as I wish.